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	<title>Comments on: My greatest fear about microfinance</title>
	<link>http://blog.givewell.org/2009/11/12/my-greatest-fear-about-microfinance/</link>
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		<title>by: Holden</title>
		<link>http://blog.givewell.org/2009/11/12/my-greatest-fear-about-microfinance/#comment-86245</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>James, agreed.</description>
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		<title>by: James Edward Dillard</title>
		<link>http://blog.givewell.org/2009/11/12/my-greatest-fear-about-microfinance/#comment-86229</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.givewell.org/2009/11/12/my-greatest-fear-about-microfinance/#comment-86229</guid>
					<description>Holden —

When I said opportunity, I guess I meant to create social impact. Micro finance hasn't been all bad because it has given people without access to liquidity access to liquidity.

The problem is that these people aren't particularly good at using the liquidity yet (according to Marc), leading to lagging social impact, especially when you factor in high interest rates, loan recipients scamming lenders by going from mfi to mif to mif and the improper incentives given to loan officers (many get paid based on the # of loans they give out rather than the repayment rate).

My thought is that if an org could get a grant to design a training model for first time loan recipients and prove that it leads to higher repayment rates and incomes, then it would have several funding options: 1) traditional donors who would simply have to be educated about micro finances short comings 2) mfi's who have an interest in seeing higher repayment rates and 3) the loan recipients themselves (who might be willing to pay a small fee if it leads to a lower interest rate).

This group could use the same stories that MFI's do, they'd just have to do a little donor education to help people understand that micro finance alone isn't the answer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holden —</p>
<p>When I said opportunity, I guess I meant to create social impact. Micro finance hasn&#8217;t been all bad because it has given people without access to liquidity access to liquidity.</p>
<p>The problem is that these people aren&#8217;t particularly good at using the liquidity yet (according to Marc), leading to lagging social impact, especially when you factor in high interest rates, loan recipients scamming lenders by going from mfi to mif to mif and the improper incentives given to loan officers (many get paid based on the # of loans they give out rather than the repayment rate).</p>
<p>My thought is that if an org could get a grant to design a training model for first time loan recipients and prove that it leads to higher repayment rates and incomes, then it would have several funding options: 1) traditional donors who would simply have to be educated about micro finances short comings 2) mfi&#8217;s who have an interest in seeing higher repayment rates and 3) the loan recipients themselves (who might be willing to pay a small fee if it leads to a lower interest rate).</p>
<p>This group could use the same stories that MFI&#8217;s do, they&#8217;d just have to do a little donor education to help people understand that micro finance alone isn&#8217;t the answer&#8230;
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		<title>by: Holden</title>
		<link>http://blog.givewell.org/2009/11/12/my-greatest-fear-about-microfinance/#comment-86160</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.givewell.org/2009/11/12/my-greatest-fear-about-microfinance/#comment-86160</guid>
					<description>James, I have to say that I have trouble seeing the "opportunity" for an organization "make [its] living based on social impact."  I'm not trying to be cynical, but as we've been arguing, the facts suggest that charities get donations almost exclusively by telling great stories rather than by demonstrating impact.  Of course, this is exactly what GiveWell is trying to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I have to say that I have trouble seeing the &#8220;opportunity&#8221; for an organization &#8220;make [its] living based on social impact.&#8221;  I&#8217;m not trying to be cynical, but as we&#8217;ve been arguing, the facts suggest that charities get donations almost exclusively by telling great stories rather than by demonstrating impact.  Of course, this is exactly what GiveWell is trying to change.
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		<title>by: James Edward Dillard</title>
		<link>http://blog.givewell.org/2009/11/12/my-greatest-fear-about-microfinance/#comment-86111</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.givewell.org/2009/11/12/my-greatest-fear-about-microfinance/#comment-86111</guid>
					<description>Heard Marc Epstein talk this week at Duke University quite eloquently about how micro finance has succeeded in scaling but not in scaling impact. (Although some of these arguments seem to be made in his paper here: http://bit.ly/1rIK17)

The key, to hear him speak (and in a paper that I believe will be published sooner rather than later) is combining education and training with the liquidity provided by micro finance. Most micro finance institutions, however, in an effort to be self-sustaining are reluctant to provide this training (and therefore end up charging high interest rates).

That said, there might be an opportunity for an organization that specializes in helping those who receive micro loans in using them effectively to scale their support alongside micro finance institutions and make their living based on social impact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heard Marc Epstein talk this week at Duke University quite eloquently about how micro finance has succeeded in scaling but not in scaling impact. (Although some of these arguments seem to be made in his paper here: <a href="http://bit.ly/1rIK17" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1rIK17</a>)</p>
<p>The key, to hear him speak (and in a paper that I believe will be published sooner rather than later) is combining education and training with the liquidity provided by micro finance. Most micro finance institutions, however, in an effort to be self-sustaining are reluctant to provide this training (and therefore end up charging high interest rates).</p>
<p>That said, there might be an opportunity for an organization that specializes in helping those who receive micro loans in using them effectively to scale their support alongside micro finance institutions and make their living based on social impact.
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		<title>by: jsalvatier</title>
		<link>http://blog.givewell.org/2009/11/12/my-greatest-fear-about-microfinance/#comment-86109</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.givewell.org/2009/11/12/my-greatest-fear-about-microfinance/#comment-86109</guid>
					<description>Of course, and credit cards aren't exactly bad, are they? The fact that the poor pay to get microloans strongly suggests that they are better off with access to those loans than without them. The more important question (this is what Holden is getting at) is whether financing microloans is the *best possible* use of those funds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, and credit cards aren&#8217;t exactly bad, are they? The fact that the poor pay to get microloans strongly suggests that they are better off with access to those loans than without them. The more important question (this is what Holden is getting at) is whether financing microloans is the *best possible* use of those funds.
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		<title>by: Alanna</title>
		<link>http://blog.givewell.org/2009/11/12/my-greatest-fear-about-microfinance/#comment-86098</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.givewell.org/2009/11/12/my-greatest-fear-about-microfinance/#comment-86098</guid>
					<description>What I can't get past is - isn't for-profit microfinance exactly the same as a credit card?</description>
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