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	<title>Comments on: The worst way to pick a charity</title>
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		<title>By: partly agree</title>
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		<dc:creator>partly agree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[partly agree, some overheads such wages can be compared. Some charity directors are paid a lot of money and some are not. This is a key indicator of the overall approach a charity has towards the way it spends money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>partly agree, some overheads such wages can be compared. Some charity directors are paid a lot of money and some are not. This is a key indicator of the overall approach a charity has towards the way it spends money.</p>
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		<title>By: Holden</title>
		<link>http://blog.givewell.org/2009/12/01/the-worst-way-to-pick-a-charity/comment-page-1/#comment-91372</link>
		<dc:creator>Holden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James, there are some attempts to standardize nonprofit metrics (for example, one at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urban.org/center/cnp/projects/outcomeindicators.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Urban Institute&lt;/a&gt;).  I personally am not terribly optimistic about standardizing metrics.  I think the biggest problem we face now is that there is so little information of any kind, and that will have to change before (if) we can make any headway on standardization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, there are some attempts to standardize nonprofit metrics (for example, one at the <a href="http://www.urban.org/center/cnp/projects/outcomeindicators.cfm" rel="nofollow">Urban Institute</a>).  I personally am not terribly optimistic about standardizing metrics.  I think the biggest problem we face now is that there is so little information of any kind, and that will have to change before (if) we can make any headway on standardization.</p>
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		<title>By: James Edward Dillard</title>
		<link>http://blog.givewell.org/2009/12/01/the-worst-way-to-pick-a-charity/comment-page-1/#comment-90871</link>
		<dc:creator>James Edward Dillard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sort of. In this post I was thinking of a clearinghouse for non-profits in specific industries. In that case, they would develop the expertise in &quot;auditing&quot; a specific kind of charity and hopefully bring the cost of tracking impact down. They would also give us standard metrics across non-profits that perform within an already established industry.

Furthermore, they&#039;d be of great value to institutional funders, who could begin rewarding non-profits that are producing more impact per dollar with more dollars. Perhaps even one or two ambitious institutional funders offer to pay groups purely based on performance (setting a &quot;market price&quot; for impacts). Perhaps that institutional funder is ambitious and uses the internet and new media to allow private givers to make &quot;guaranteed impact&quot; donations — gifts that are only released to a non-profit after that group has achieved a certain impact.

Obviously, clearinghouses like these would have to be industry (and to some extent locationaly) specific. And they wouldn&#039;t solve all of the problems (after all, some services are not profitable and don&#039;t have impact measurements but are invaluable)... but they&#039;d be a great start (and if you know of anything like this, please let me know, I&#039;d like to study them).

From my understanding, PAL and IPA are more like think tanks than anything else (but still awesome... my day job non-profit co-hosted a Poverty Action Conference designed to expose college students to impact first principles).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sort of. In this post I was thinking of a clearinghouse for non-profits in specific industries. In that case, they would develop the expertise in &#8220;auditing&#8221; a specific kind of charity and hopefully bring the cost of tracking impact down. They would also give us standard metrics across non-profits that perform within an already established industry.</p>
<p>Furthermore, they&#8217;d be of great value to institutional funders, who could begin rewarding non-profits that are producing more impact per dollar with more dollars. Perhaps even one or two ambitious institutional funders offer to pay groups purely based on performance (setting a &#8220;market price&#8221; for impacts). Perhaps that institutional funder is ambitious and uses the internet and new media to allow private givers to make &#8220;guaranteed impact&#8221; donations — gifts that are only released to a non-profit after that group has achieved a certain impact.</p>
<p>Obviously, clearinghouses like these would have to be industry (and to some extent locationaly) specific. And they wouldn&#8217;t solve all of the problems (after all, some services are not profitable and don&#8217;t have impact measurements but are invaluable)&#8230; but they&#8217;d be a great start (and if you know of anything like this, please let me know, I&#8217;d like to study them).</p>
<p>From my understanding, PAL and IPA are more like think tanks than anything else (but still awesome&#8230; my day job non-profit co-hosted a Poverty Action Conference designed to expose college students to impact first principles).</p>
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		<title>By: Holden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James, are you referring to groups like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.povertyactionlab.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Poverty Action Lab&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://poverty-action.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Innovations for Poverty Action&lt;/a&gt;?  I am a big fan of these groups.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, are you referring to groups like <a href="http://www.povertyactionlab.com" rel="nofollow">Poverty Action Lab</a> and <a href="http://poverty-action.org/" rel="nofollow">Innovations for Poverty Action</a>?  I am a big fan of these groups.</p>
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		<title>By: James Edward Dillard</title>
		<link>http://blog.givewell.org/2009/12/01/the-worst-way-to-pick-a-charity/comment-page-1/#comment-89555</link>
		<dc:creator>James Edward Dillard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Holden —

I love where this is going, thank you (and the others) for your leadership on this. Everything should be under impact and providing impact at a value. 

Something else I think is necessary:  &quot;industry&quot; based groups that help us to compare impact across non-profits (and also may help us deliver it at value). 

Rather than asking each non-profit to do their own impact analysis, for established industries (like say closing the achievement gap in children ages 6-9 [I&#039;m not an education guru, so that might not make sense, but you get my point]) could be especially useful for foundations and major donors to see real ways that they can get more impact for their money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holden —</p>
<p>I love where this is going, thank you (and the others) for your leadership on this. Everything should be under impact and providing impact at a value. </p>
<p>Something else I think is necessary:  &#8220;industry&#8221; based groups that help us to compare impact across non-profits (and also may help us deliver it at value). </p>
<p>Rather than asking each non-profit to do their own impact analysis, for established industries (like say closing the achievement gap in children ages 6-9 [I'm not an education guru, so that might not make sense, but you get my point]) could be especially useful for foundations and major donors to see real ways that they can get more impact for their money.</p>
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