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	<title>Comments on: Are great charities made or born?</title>
	<link>http://blog.givewell.org/2010/06/02/are-great-charities-made-or-born/</link>
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		<title>by: Holden</title>
		<link>http://blog.givewell.org/2010/06/02/are-great-charities-made-or-born/#comment-137360</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>McKay, thanks for the thoughts.

My understanding is that VillageReach always had a pretty clear timeline for finishing and publishing their pilot project evaluation.

I'm not sure it's always a bad thing for an organization to get "stuck in the pilot phase."  What that means to me is that they haven't yet figured out how to make what they're doing work (demonstrably) even at a small scale.  In such cases, it seems better for them to continue experimenting (or "floundering" depending on your spin) at a small scale rather than at a large scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McKay, thanks for the thoughts.</p>
<p>My understanding is that VillageReach always had a pretty clear timeline for finishing and publishing their pilot project evaluation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s always a bad thing for an organization to get &#8220;stuck in the pilot phase.&#8221;  What that means to me is that they haven&#8217;t yet figured out how to make what they&#8217;re doing work (demonstrably) even at a small scale.  In such cases, it seems better for them to continue experimenting (or &#8220;floundering&#8221; depending on your spin) at a small scale rather than at a large scale.
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		<title>by: McKay</title>
		<link>http://blog.givewell.org/2010/06/02/are-great-charities-made-or-born/#comment-137346</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Interesting question and I'm not sure of course there is one clear answer or pathway to great charities. I like your proposal though of starting small and imbedding greatness in the model rather than expecting organisations to change what can be substantial internal style and ways of thinking. Changing culture - whether in non-profit or in classic businesses - is one of the hardest things to do and the bigger you are, the tougher. 

But I do caution one part of your theory. You say that VillageReach:
&lt;blockquote&gt;appears to have stayed as small as possible until the evidence was there. Its first several years were devoted to a single pilot project, and only after the evaluations of this project were complete did it start to look at scaling up and taking on other engagements&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which is excellent that it made this transition, but in following their footsteps it is equally important to note the thousands of organisations that start with pilot and research projects and get stuck there. THey never move on, never break out, never become great. The proving the model goes on forever, especially if it was never set as a time-limited phase towards an eventual ambition. So one organisation rising from this pool doesn't prove a repeatable pathway, if you get the cautionary tale. 

It would be fascinating to understand how they made the jump, whether they started with an embedded ambition and how they knew when the model was proven enough to go big.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting question and I&#8217;m not sure of course there is one clear answer or pathway to great charities. I like your proposal though of starting small and imbedding greatness in the model rather than expecting organisations to change what can be substantial internal style and ways of thinking. Changing culture - whether in non-profit or in classic businesses - is one of the hardest things to do and the bigger you are, the tougher. </p>
<p>But I do caution one part of your theory. You say that VillageReach:</p>
<blockquote><p>appears to have stayed as small as possible until the evidence was there. Its first several years were devoted to a single pilot project, and only after the evaluations of this project were complete did it start to look at scaling up and taking on other engagements</p></blockquote>
<p>Which is excellent that it made this transition, but in following their footsteps it is equally important to note the thousands of organisations that start with pilot and research projects and get stuck there. THey never move on, never break out, never become great. The proving the model goes on forever, especially if it was never set as a time-limited phase towards an eventual ambition. So one organisation rising from this pool doesn&#8217;t prove a repeatable pathway, if you get the cautionary tale. </p>
<p>It would be fascinating to understand how they made the jump, whether they started with an embedded ambition and how they knew when the model was proven enough to go big.
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		<title>by: Ian Turner</title>
		<link>http://blog.givewell.org/2010/06/02/are-great-charities-made-or-born/#comment-136890</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 12:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Even VillageReach took a lot of time to study different possible opportunities and programs before settling on vaccination and Cabo Delgado as suitable program and location. The founders have no past experience with or dedication to vaccination, they just saw it as the best opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even VillageReach took a lot of time to study different possible opportunities and programs before settling on vaccination and Cabo Delgado as suitable program and location. The founders have no past experience with or dedication to vaccination, they just saw it as the best opportunity.
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